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		<title>By: If you read only one post about Lithuanian dual citizenship&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>If you read only one post about Lithuanian dual citizenship&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the camps, and it&#8217;s free. It takes some time (I think my search took about two months), but I received in the mail a stack of photocopies of trip manifests that showed my grandparents’ trip from Germany to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the camps, and it&#8217;s free. It takes some time (I think my search took about two months), but I received in the mail a stack of photocopies of trip manifests that showed my grandparents’ trip from Germany to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moacir P. de Sá Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moacir P. de Sá Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha... I just looked at yr email address. Alio, vadove...

ITS won&#039;t send anything legalized, at least they didn&#039;t to me. Considering how disinterested the consul was in what I brought in to show the post-1940 leaving, I think you&#039;re best off with:

1. Your BC w/ apostille

2. Your mom&#039;s naturalization papers into the US w/ (fed) apostille. Assuming she&#039;s still alive, you can have her do a FOIA search on herself and request the documents. Then you need to legalize them. That will possibly take up to two months, however.

3. Your mom&#039;s BC. If she was born in LT before 1940, get it from the Archyvai and you&#039;re gold with just that. If she was born after 1940, you&#039;ll need to then prove that her parents were LT citizens before 1940--which you can also do via the Archyvai.

Of course, if your mom was a citizen of LT before 1940, nearly anything imaginable that proves that she was living in the US before 1990 will go--though, unfortunately, that might not include your birth certificate. Anything attesting to citizenship in the US, though, would be great. Naturalization papers would be best.

Finally, talk to your consulatas--Vytautas in Chicago was very very useful for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230; I just looked at yr email address. Alio, vadove&#8230;</p>
<p>ITS won&#8217;t send anything legalized, at least they didn&#8217;t to me. Considering how disinterested the consul was in what I brought in to show the post-1940 leaving, I think you&#8217;re best off with:</p>
<p>1. Your BC w/ apostille</p>
<p>2. Your mom&#8217;s naturalization papers into the US w/ (fed) apostille. Assuming she&#8217;s still alive, you can have her do a FOIA search on herself and request the documents. Then you need to legalize them. That will possibly take up to two months, however.</p>
<p>3. Your mom&#8217;s BC. If she was born in LT before 1940, get it from the Archyvai and you&#8217;re gold with just that. If she was born after 1940, you&#8217;ll need to then prove that her parents were LT citizens before 1940&#8211;which you can also do via the Archyvai.</p>
<p>Of course, if your mom was a citizen of LT before 1940, nearly anything imaginable that proves that she was living in the US before 1990 will go&#8211;though, unfortunately, that might not include your birth certificate. Anything attesting to citizenship in the US, though, would be great. Naturalization papers would be best.</p>
<p>Finally, talk to your consulatas&#8211;Vytautas in Chicago was very very useful for me.</p>
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		<title>By: matas</title>
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		<dc:creator>matas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the passport info. I wonder how strict they are to the guidelines listed on the consulate website.  Aside, I actually have one document from a displaced persons camp in Germany that lists my mother&#039;s name and her parents names. I will inquire with ITS to see if they have others.  Do you believe it possible, or necessary - to get an apostille on the documents from Germany?  btw - I know you from about 18 years ago - small world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the passport info. I wonder how strict they are to the guidelines listed on the consulate website.  Aside, I actually have one document from a displaced persons camp in Germany that lists my mother&#8217;s name and her parents names. I will inquire with ITS to see if they have others.  Do you believe it possible, or necessary &#8211; to get an apostille on the documents from Germany?  btw &#8211; I know you from about 18 years ago &#8211; small world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Moacir P. de Sá Pereira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moacir P. de Sá Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They photocopied my passport at the consulate. They don&#039;t keep it. They also don&#039;t, I suspect, care about it. You&#039;re born in Ohio--that&#039;s proof of US citizenship. The passport just proves you are who you say you are when you submit the application. If you&#039;re not submitting in person, I suppose you could get a copy of your passport notarized and sent along. Getting the Lithuanian passport, however, may involve an in-person visit.

At the federal level, apostilles are available from the Dept. of Authentication--I discussed that in an earlier post and linked to this:

http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/article.asp?articleref=AR00001778EN

They do a good job of explaining the process of getting an apostille for a federal document. Again, though, your passport probably doesn&#039;t need it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They photocopied my passport at the consulate. They don&#8217;t keep it. They also don&#8217;t, I suspect, care about it. You&#8217;re born in Ohio&#8211;that&#8217;s proof of US citizenship. The passport just proves you are who you say you are when you submit the application. If you&#8217;re not submitting in person, I suppose you could get a copy of your passport notarized and sent along. Getting the Lithuanian passport, however, may involve an in-person visit.</p>
<p>At the federal level, apostilles are available from the Dept. of Authentication&#8211;I discussed that in an earlier post and linked to this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/article.asp?articleref=AR00001778EN" rel="nofollow">http://www.netherlands-embassy.....00001778EN</a></p>
<p>They do a good job of explaining the process of getting an apostille for a federal document. Again, though, your passport probably doesn&#8217;t need it!</p>
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		<title>By: matas</title>
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		<dc:creator>matas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been going through this process in almost the exact same timeframe as you.  I too have large gaps in information. I just hit the confusion surrounding apostilles, and searching on the web I just found your story. Did you get a copy of your US passport with apostille - and if so, how did you go about that?  Can it be done at the state level?  I&#039;ll also need to do birth certificate, but am in California, born in Ohio so that will be another challenge...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been going through this process in almost the exact same timeframe as you.  I too have large gaps in information. I just hit the confusion surrounding apostilles, and searching on the web I just found your story. Did you get a copy of your US passport with apostille &#8211; and if so, how did you go about that?  Can it be done at the state level?  I&#8217;ll also need to do birth certificate, but am in California, born in Ohio so that will be another challenge&#8230;</p>
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