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		<title>By: Jonas V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, well said. Just goes to show you how blinding ideology can be. I&#039;ve read some of her scholarly papers from back in the day. She definitely wasn&#039;t throwing around neocon talking points at that point in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, well said. Just goes to show you how blinding ideology can be. I&#8217;ve read some of her scholarly papers from back in the day. She definitely wasn&#8217;t throwing around neocon talking points at that point in time.</p>
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		<title>By: moacir</title>
		<link>http://www.lithchat.com/politika/overextending-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>moacir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the point that the Bush administration seems to still treat Russia as though it were a weakling (the Clinton-era perspective) and that that is a gross misunderstanding of Russian affairs has been widely made...

...It kind of makes you wish they had, I dunno, an expert on Russia somewhere high up in the State Department... like &lt;a href=&#039;http://bianca.penlib.du.edu/search/arice/arice;Ya=1980;Yb=1982;SORT=on/1,10,,E/frameset&amp;FF=arice;Ya=1980;Yb=1982;SORT=on&amp;8,8,&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;someone whose dissertation was on the military in 20th c. Eastern Europe&lt;/a&gt;, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the point that the Bush administration seems to still treat Russia as though it were a weakling (the Clinton-era perspective) and that that is a gross misunderstanding of Russian affairs has been widely made&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;It kind of makes you wish they had, I dunno, an expert on Russia somewhere high up in the State Department&#8230; like <a href='http://bianca.penlib.du.edu/search/arice/arice;Ya=1980;Yb=1982;SORT=on/1,10,,E/frameset&#038;FF=arice;Ya=1980;Yb=1982;SORT=on&#038;8,8,' rel="nofollow">someone whose dissertation was on the military in 20th c. Eastern Europe</a>, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas V.</title>
		<link>http://www.lithchat.com/politika/overextending-america.html/comment-page-1#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonas V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post about overextension Moacir. I especially liked the clip from the Chris Wood article. I&#039;ve got one issue with him though. He says that Russia has only suffered since the attack on Georgia and that Russia did not gain anything meaningful from the attack: &quot;...only reveals all the more starkly its lack of any ideological attraction for its neighbours, to whom it can offer only cheap gas and retribution.&quot;

To us in the West (myself included), it looks as if Russia has only harmed its international image. This isn&#039;t the way Russia (specifically its leadership) looks at things though. Russia has had an inferiority complex to the U.S. since the end of the Cold War. This isn&#039;t helped in the way the U.S. has dealt with Russia since then: like a vanquished foe who doesn&#039;t deserve much respect and is only to be given directives to, not negotiated with.

Having some oil clout is one way to bolster its ego and knocking the U.S. down a peg by showing that Russia can do what it wants in its backyard is another. Personally, I don&#039;t think that losing $16.4 billion in capital and the world&#039;s goodwill is worth pushing around the Georgians. Still, this brings up the old argument of which a leader would rather have from his people: love or fear. North Korea is another example of an inferiority complex and constant efforts to try to join the nuclear club in order to gain more respect (fear). 

I&#039;m not saying that Russia made the right move in regards to Georgia, but I am saying that Russia made a statement it felt it had to make in order to gain more respect (and they timed it perfectly, as you noted in your post). I think this is only a continuation of the strategy of bullying that Russia started once oil prices rose steeply after 1998. 

Pushing around the Ukraine and others by using gas politics apparently leads to violence against smaller neighbors. Putin has also said that he doesn&#039;t like how many NATO naval ships are in the area. When asked about what he&#039;d do about it he said recently &quot;You&#039;ll see.&quot; Idomu kas bus toliau...

J.V.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post about overextension Moacir. I especially liked the clip from the Chris Wood article. I&#8217;ve got one issue with him though. He says that Russia has only suffered since the attack on Georgia and that Russia did not gain anything meaningful from the attack: &#8220;&#8230;only reveals all the more starkly its lack of any ideological attraction for its neighbours, to whom it can offer only cheap gas and retribution.&#8221;</p>
<p>To us in the West (myself included), it looks as if Russia has only harmed its international image. This isn&#8217;t the way Russia (specifically its leadership) looks at things though. Russia has had an inferiority complex to the U.S. since the end of the Cold War. This isn&#8217;t helped in the way the U.S. has dealt with Russia since then: like a vanquished foe who doesn&#8217;t deserve much respect and is only to be given directives to, not negotiated with.</p>
<p>Having some oil clout is one way to bolster its ego and knocking the U.S. down a peg by showing that Russia can do what it wants in its backyard is another. Personally, I don&#8217;t think that losing $16.4 billion in capital and the world&#8217;s goodwill is worth pushing around the Georgians. Still, this brings up the old argument of which a leader would rather have from his people: love or fear. North Korea is another example of an inferiority complex and constant efforts to try to join the nuclear club in order to gain more respect (fear). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that Russia made the right move in regards to Georgia, but I am saying that Russia made a statement it felt it had to make in order to gain more respect (and they timed it perfectly, as you noted in your post). I think this is only a continuation of the strategy of bullying that Russia started once oil prices rose steeply after 1998. </p>
<p>Pushing around the Ukraine and others by using gas politics apparently leads to violence against smaller neighbors. Putin has also said that he doesn&#8217;t like how many NATO naval ships are in the area. When asked about what he&#8217;d do about it he said recently &#8220;You&#8217;ll see.&#8221; Idomu kas bus toliau&#8230;</p>
<p>J.V.</p>
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